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Post by BigEyeTenor » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:51 am

I have no idea why compared2what had such ... popularity. I couldn't stand her. While we're dumping on RI.

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Post by C_D » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:41 pm

I have no idea why compared2what had such ... popularity.
I enjoyed her ability to express herself. Which she did, with abandon.

Wonder what's happened to everyone's favourite copy'n'paste pusher of nazi and fascist ideology and imagery?
Has he gone voluntarily - lurking, self-imposed - or was he pushed?
I consider his game to be directly influencial in the turn of events playing out in the U.S.

And it's somewhat disheartening - but unsurprising - to see that so many folks over there just don't get it - that Trump is the natural heir to groundwork laid for generations prior. He is their result. I fear for the collapse of sanity, for the collapse of society and a headless, unguided, unbridled military machine that sees not only everyone else, but it's own kind as an enemy.

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Post by greycircle » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:34 am

BigEyeTenor wrote:

I have no idea why compared2what had such ... popularity. I couldn't stand her. While we're dumping on RI
Amen. Nails on a chalkboard.
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Post by greycircle » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:54 am

Lydia Cacho has learned the Russian Mafia has saturated the Internet with girl-child porn, “infomercials” in effect, to drive the demand for their product.

the Russian, Albanian, Italian, Japanese and Chinese mafias, the Latin American drug cartels, – the international Uber-Patriarchy itself, that is – owners and operators of the international recreational assault market, reaping billion dollar profits in what has increasingly become the global sex-trafficking of girl-children.

gatekeeper chorus.....ensues.. *stirr* ^fart^ smiggle*


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See, now THIS is what working to uncover sex criminals in high places actually looks like.
I'm still reading this but see that Lydia Cacho did a real, in depth investigation, traveling all over the world. She's the first one to step back and set her sights on the entire, international child sexual exploitation machine, not just zero on on certain details.
This is an outstanding piece, though I'm not all the way through it. Thank you very much for sharing it.


See guys, when you leave the European Royalty in London and it's affiliates out of the equation and fail to name the usual suspects with known names it becomes a masterpiece pedo investigation!!

Not knocking the woman's investigation if she really did the work but this is typical of the gatekeepers.

A good feminist wrote it. :)


Lydia Cacho

by Manila on March 20, 2016

Birth Name: Lydia Cacho Ribeiro

Place of Birth: Mexico City, Mexico

Date of Birth: April 12, 1963

Ethnicity:
*Mexican (Spanish, possibly other) (father)
*Portuguese, some Sephardi Jewish (mother)

Lydia Cacho is a Mexican journalist, feminist, and human rights activist. Her father, Óscar Humberto Cacho Robles, is a Mexican engineer. Her mother, Paula Maria Monteiro Ribeiro, was a French immigrant, from Lyon, and was of Portuguese and some Sephardi Jewish descent.

Semen: Men’s Chemical War Against Women. No-Skip Intro.

https://trustyourperceptions.wordpress. ... kip-intro/

I feel dirty and disgusting now. I miss what that place once was, one of the coolest hangouts on the net....
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Post by onefiftythree » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:18 pm

That's a pretty incredible piece of writing (about semen and stuff). I can't say I disagree with any of it, even if it does sorta make me feel like I should kill myself. It all supports the hypothesis that human beings are the result of a genetic experiment and that males are in fact an interloper of some kind.
(Even in our recent Homo sapien time, women have been made to forget the women who were not for males. – The women who were for themselves and other women, – the spinsters, the hermits, the feminists, the Lesbians, the separatists, the witches, the mad ones. – Many of these women reversed the reversal of male-identification. – With some even resisting ever becoming male-identified. – These being the women erased the most).

Men erase women’s memory of Gynocentric Origins, and replace it with what Daly calls “male-authored memories.” Male-authored memories are the memories men make women keep. Men make women keep the memory of being fucked, – chemically searing it into female memory. Female memory is thus disciplined on genetic interlopers’ behalf. Coded with fuck instructions, females cannot remember before males, females cannot remember not being for males.

On both the biochemical and sociopolitical levels, when males block female memory, what they are ultimately blocking is women from being female-identified. Females must be prevented from being female-identified. Females must be co-opted into identifying with and serving the reproductive needs of males. Learning-reinforcement and memory-reinforcement sem-chems indoctrinate heterosexual women for male-identification, – indeed, they indoctrinate women for heterosexuality itself. This is Chemical Male-Identification.
Absolutely 100% true. This is the agenda of so-called 'sex positive' 3rd wave feminism which would absolutely ABHOR this essayist (uniformly NOT a good feminist according to mainstream opinion): sexual 'liberation' and porn is unimpeachably good and not to be criticized, women are taught best how to be obedient fuck-slaves. The transgender agenda is the deepest and most batshit insane literalization of all this.

I want to know who 'trustyourperceptions' is, though. She is certainly not a voice of 'the elite.'

This is another good one from them (on porn): https://trustyourperceptions.wordpress. ... rn-part-v/

"Men should read this stuff like white people should read Malcolm X." - paraphrasing my (loving, supportive) girlfriend

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Post by C_D » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:41 am

Trust your perceptions is most certainly a voice of the elite.

The plan to break down the human condition to it's most singular state proceeds most excellently.
In order of occurence:

Disperse physical racial identity. (racism)
Disperse notional nation states. (nationalism)
Disperse community. (immigration)
Disperse bonds of family and friends. (we are here - collective individualism)
and the finale, the coupe de grace:
Disperse male from female.

At dispersal of male from female, the game is won. A society of individuals remain that is remote from everything around them. Utterly powerless.

The dispersal of male from female as conceived in that article has an equally important bonus End-State - the 'pure' part - sperm - can be removed from the dangerous semen and introduced into the female egg by artificial insemination - at which point the DNA can be fucked with, in any way the elite please.

Unfortunately, the ideas contained in the article will gain traction, will appear perfectly reasonable and will ensure that humans are very different animals in the coming future.

But who's to say that living in a world controlled by a small minority can't be wonderful, eh?

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Post by BigEyeTenor » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:22 pm

RI used to have some of the best minds on the internet. Now it has this:
I took a look at Altered Minds and I'm not sure what to think. There were some interesting posts but I'm concerned about dogmatic, robotic, overly ideological thinking both on the left and right--and there seemed to be plenty of that (right wing version). I guess having a sort of right-wing wing of RI can't hurt, as long as they stick to internet discussion and don't launch themselves into pursuits such as organizing a meme factory, troll army creation, etc.

I have to say though that, IMHO, anyone who, after an in depth look, continues to give serious credence to Pizzagate is operating from damaged reasoning ability and/ or is sitting on unexamined anger that clouds their capacity for empathy and love and drives them to spew hateful theories.

To clarify, I don't mean that there couldn't have been child abusers in the PG mix, but the way the accusations were wielded was a form of meme-terrorism concocted to elevate a con artist candidate to POTUS. And, thanks to the abysmal level of political awareness and discourse in the US of A the operation had success. Sad.
:shock: :lol:

Talk about sad.

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Post by onefiftythree » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:43 pm

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Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:41 am
Trust your perceptions is most certainly a voice of the elite.
Not everyone who disagrees with you is a voice of the elite, even if they self-describe as feminists.
The dispersal of male from female as conceived in that article has an equally important bonus End-State - the 'pure' part - sperm - can be removed from the dangerous semen and introduced into the female egg by artificial insemination - at which point the DNA can be fucked with, in any way the elite please.
Did you even read the thing? Or any of the dozens of detailed essays written by her? This is the exact type of male-authored genetic fuckery of females that the author is plainly pointing out we're heading towards, and radically, vehementally, and justifiably opposing. To imagine she would endorse such thing is to completely and utterly misread her.

The larger point she is making is that the Y-chromosome is degenerating, quite literally. The 'elites' such as they are (read: MALE) are frantically trying to stop this by any means possible, including heading towards a transhumanist state where women are utterly dehumanized and made to be incubators for Y-chromosomed offspring. One need only to look at Chelsea Manning and the transgender cult to see that this is an agenda playing itself out right now.

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Post by C_D » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:48 pm

One - I'm going to have a read of the article again, thoroughly this time, have a think, then move this to it's own thread tomorrow, where we can continue. Sorry to delay, I'm using a silly tablet atm and its fiddly to type on.

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Post by C_D » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:22 am

Actually.... hey one, I'm not going to engage you on this, apart to say;
one wrote:
She is certainly not a voice of 'the elite.'
C_D wrote:
Trust your perceptions is most certainly a voice of the elite.
one wrote:
Not everyone who disagrees with you is a voice of the elite, even if they self-describe as feminists.
I'm unsure as to whether you are aware of the subtleties or not, but I was disagreeing with your statement, not trustyourperceptions.
I am also unable to discern what the two parts of the statement "Not everyone who disagrees with you is a voice of the elite, even if they self-describe as feminists" have in relation to one another. Genuinely. I can't see the link. And - are you suggesting that trustyourperceptions disagrees with me, before I have read the article and before I reply - and that she is capable of not only time displacement but mind reading? I find it more likely that you are projecting yourself into trustyourperception's persona and defending her as non-elite. In this case, would you mind pointing me in the direction of her biography so that I can verify that she is a female - and her status within the system - just for my own peace of mind.

I should have addressed this issue when I first read it, but I was lazy, which I now regret -
one said: I can't say I disagree with any of it, even if it does sorta make me feel like I should kill myself.
Is this virtue signalling, or is this intentional placing of the thought in anothers mind of killing oneself if in agreeance, or is this the real deal?

I'll assume for courtesy's sake, it is the last.
Self-hating (induced by other people's ideas) is easily mistaken for, or easily manipulated from, self-reflection. It's difficult not to sound like lecturing, but I'll do it anyway - there is literally nothing left to lose as the American psyche hurtles towards disintegration - self-loathing is a cage in which the mind is trapped, disguised as freedom of thought, yet a malignant force that is a constant, moment to moment cancerous tumour that eats your mind from under you. The rest of your life, until the moment you die, will be blighted. There is no escaping it, it is as much a part of you as a limb. But you can cut a limb off.
Exorcising self-hate (induced by other peoples ideas) is easy - stop reading other peoples ideas and inflicting them upon yourself.
This applies as much to the words I write here as any.
Take a while off - read some fiction, look at the realtionships you have and feed them, experience the moment, take in some scenery, study something real. This sounds trite, right? It sounds trite because the system wishes it that way - the system demands your full engagement of self-loathing to divide you from yourself.

trustyourperception? A worthy, nod-to-The-Matrix, highly credible writer. Perhaps the next idea from this mind will be to provide scientific proof that breast milk contains carcinogens which eventually develop into cancers in their offspring. There! A free idea for you, trustyourperception. I'm sure you can develop that into a raging self-hatred complex for all the mothers of the Earth.

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Post by Pauli137 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:01 pm

Just weighing in, "voting" if you will.

This place seems rational. The other place now seems to be populated by smug, self-congratulatory ideologues.

Especially in the thread about this thread.

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Post by onefiftythree » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:53 pm

C_D wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:22 am
I'm unsure as to whether you are aware of the subtleties or not, but I was disagreeing with your statement, not trustyourperceptions.
I am also unable to discern what the two parts of the statement "Not everyone who disagrees with you is a voice of the elite, even if they self-describe as feminists" have in relation to one another. Genuinely.
Oftentimes men will have a kneejerk reaction to a woman—or anyone—self-describing as 'feminist'. Very oftentimes, especially recently, because there is now a whole mass movement of Men's Men who believe Feminism is the work of the Devil—or at best, 'the Elites,' but usually just a bunch of uppity bitches who can't handle The Way Things Are. If you don't feel this way, then I apologize for putting that on you—the guy who linked this claimed this piece was written by "a good feminist"—in the sly manner of the aforementioned men-who-can't-handle-feminism. But he was wrong, and exposed his ignorance of feminism by writing that, because this gal ain't no good feminist. She's the worst kind, the kind even the folks over at RI can't handle, don't want to touch.
In this case, would you mind pointing me in the direction of her biography so that I can verify that she is a female - and her status within the system - just for my own peace of mind.
I don't see a bio anywhere. But I can verify she is a female because I can tell by her writing (which you haven't apparently read). No man, no tool of the elite, would ever write this shit, lol. And the fact that she has no bio makes me think that she is definitely a woman, because if she had a bio up, contact information, anything resembling that, she would be hounded with death threats daily. Because that's what happens to women who don't Do As They Are Told. There is nothing more hated and vilified by men than 'female-separatist' lesbian radfems.
Is this virtue signalling, or is this intentional placing of the thought in anothers mind of killing oneself if in agreeance, or is this the real deal?
It was a joke.
trustyourperception? A worthy, nod-to-The-Matrix, highly credible writer. Perhaps the next idea from this mind will be to provide scientific proof that breast milk contains carcinogens which eventually develop into cancers in their offspring. There! A free idea for you, trustyourperception. I'm sure you can develop that into a raging self-hatred complex for all the mothers of the Earth.
Now you're just tilting at windmills.

Try reading it. Start here: https://trustyourperceptions.wordpress. ... redoomed1/

I wish Project Willow was here.

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Post by C_D » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:42 am

I wish Project Willow was here
Me too. But to what end, for yourself, personally? To reinforce your mindview, but what if she challenges it? How flexible are you?

I've read the 5-part article you linked to at the bottom of your post and think I understand the concerns. The problem I have is with the delivery. Again, I too sense the increasing urgency of necessary change - that the edifice we have created is that primarly of maleness - producing a society of such incredible blindness to alternatives that it has personally made me recoil from it in disbelief. Every facet, save that of love and kindness, is literal madness run amok. But.

We have to work through this together. As a communal act. Exposing inadequacies - introducing new concepts to another's mind, a mind which may itself recoil from the terrifying ramifications of truths so apparant once unveiled - has to be done with understanding, has to be done from a point of balanced perception - not from a place driven by retribution of prior oppression. The feelings of righteousness and correctness generated by one's inner core at being right about that which was suspected, coupled with the inate propensity to gloat, are dangerous.

I was tilting at windmills.

Once again - to be absolutely clear - my objection is delivery.

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Post by C_D » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:10 pm

Hooo-ey, tough crowd over at RI at the moment, eh Harv? Gotta respect that tolerance level. Quite a spectacle.

Anyhoo, I was sitting on the crapper evacuating last night's scrumptious morsels, reading this thread - http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... 344e8fe5f3 - with womby explaining how mistaken you are, when, AND I SHIT YOU NOT, the following happened:

I refreshed the active topics page and there were 9 replies in that thread. Rory was the last one at number 9. I clicked on another thread, had a brief look, then came back to active topics page, refreshed, and there were now 10 replies, with slad as number 10. I clicked on the topic link to see what delights slad was puking from her inner demons and LO AND BEHOLD, between the time it took for me to click on the link and the page to load on my slow tablet, there was NO slad post at number 10! Rory's was the last. slads post had magically disappeared! I realise you've been assured it's not possible, so I guess I hallucinated it - but let's consider some other insane possibilities:
slad either has the power to remove posts entirely, which is only available to mod status members or higher, or someone else is real-time editing or removing comments as they see fit. Crazy, I know - I mean, that could never happen in the real world, right?
*hatzoff*

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Post by Pauli137 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:27 pm

C_D wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:10 pm
Hooo-ey, tough crowd over at RI at the moment, eh Harv? Gotta respect that tolerance level. Quite a spectacle.

Anyhoo, I was sitting on the crapper evacuating last night's scrumptious morsels, reading this thread - http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... 344e8fe5f3 - with womby explaining how mistaken you are, when, AND I SHIT YOU NOT, the following happened:

I refreshed the active topics page and there were 9 replies in that thread. Rory was the last one at number 9. I clicked on another thread, had a brief look, then came back to active topics page, refreshed, and there were now 10 replies, with slad as number 10. I clicked on the topic link to see what delights slad was puking from her inner demons and LO AND BEHOLD, between the time it took for me to click on the link and the page to load on my slow tablet, there was NO slad post at number 10! Rory's was the last. slads post had magically disappeared! I realise you've been assured it's not possible, so I guess I hallucinated it - but let's consider some other insane possibilities:
slad either has the power to remove posts entirely, which is only available to mod status members or higher, or someone else is real-time editing or removing comments as they see fit. Crazy, I know - I mean, that could never happen in the real world, right?
*hatzoff*
I think if you delete a comment early enough, it disappears entirely. I did that once, over there.

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Post by onefiftythree » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:51 pm

C_D wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:42 am
I wish Project Willow was here
Me too. But to what end, for yourself, personally? To reinforce your mindview, but what if she challenges it? How flexible are you?
If for no other reason than to have an Actual Female Perspective, whatever that may be (though I do know she comes down on the side of radical-feminism, so she's probably well and familiar with this blog already, I'd love to see what she says about it). More welcoming attitudes towards Actual Female Perspectives from men in general, so that we can all go ahead and get on with that working through this together thing you mention, would also be nice.
We have to work through this together. As a communal act. Exposing inadequacies - introducing new concepts to another's mind, a mind which may itself recoil from the terrifying ramifications of truths so apparant once unveiled - has to be done with understanding, has to be done from a point of balanced perception - not from a place driven by retribution of prior oppression. The feelings of righteousness and correctness generated by one's inner core at being right about that which was suspected, coupled with the inate propensity to gloat, are dangerous.
You have to see it from her perspective. "We have to work through this together." Yeah, well, tell that to the men who have been and still are raping, pillaging, waging war, not to mention mocking, discrediting, ignoring, condescending-towards-while-intellectually thieving-from for about as long as they've been around—I'm pretty sure women being forced to adopt a conciliatory tone and presenting their ideas 'safely' for the male perspective (ie, not to Offend or to Make Him Think Less Of Himself), is the exact sort of behavior she's raging against being told to do (by, uh, men).

Anyway, I think we're pretty well in agreement here and if you want to put this in its own thread that's fine. I don't feel a pressing urge to get into anymore online debates—in the wake of Charlottesville it's simply exhausting.

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Post by C_D » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:13 pm

I think if you delete a comment early enough, it disappears entirely. I did that once, over there.
Must start taking my meds again. Cheers.

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Post by Pauli137 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:33 pm

C_D wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:13 pm
I think if you delete a comment early enough, it disappears entirely. I did that once, over there.
Must start taking my meds again. Cheers.
It wasn't your imagination. I think there's a 5 minute window where you can delete a post and it disappears without a trace. I once made an unkind remark about a member who I don't much care for, then decided it didn't contribute anything so I immediately erased it. There was no evidence of it ever appearing, except for the member in question making a note of the insult.

For the record, I don't comment there anymore, and rarely ever even lurk, it's become so toxic and one-sided.

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Post by greycircle » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:00 pm

My quote feature isn't working so this is the best I can do at the moment.

"onefiftythree wrote:

Oftentimes men will have a kneejerk reaction to a woman—or anyone—self-describing as 'feminist'. Very oftentimes, especially recently, because there is now a whole mass movement of Men's Men who believe Feminism is the work of the Devil—or at best, 'the Elites,' but usually just a bunch of uppity bitches who can't handle The Way Things Are."


"onefiftythree wrote:

If you don't feel this way, then I apologize for putting that on you—the guy who linked this claimed this piece was written by "a good feminist"—in the sly manner of the aforementioned men-who-can't-handle-feminism. But he was wrong, and exposed his ignorance of feminism by writing that, because this gal ain't no good feminist."
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The "guy" who linked to the article does not believe that 3rd wave feminism is the work of the devil and the elites. The "guy" knows that 3rd wave feminism is the work of the devil and is destroying what wholesome and productive feminism once was. 3rd wave feminism is cancer and has given a black eye to the productive brand of healthy feminism of days long past.

Just so we're clear.:)
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Post by greycircle » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:06 pm

My java is breaking the quote feature.....



C D wrote:

"I refreshed the active topics page and there were 9 replies in that thread. Rory was the last one at number 9. I clicked on another thread, had a brief look, then came back to active topics page, refreshed, and there were now 10 replies, with slad as number 10. I clicked on the topic link to see what delights slad was puking from her inner demons and LO AND BEHOLD, between the time it took for me to click on the link and the page to load on my slow tablet, there was NO slad post at number 10! Rory's was the last. slads post had magically disappeared!"

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Its not your imagination. Remember when SLAD had the ass for american dream and she would screen cap his posts because they kept disapearing? Posts do disappear there. I distinctly remember SLAD whipping out the screen caps in order to prove it.
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