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T.I.D.S

Post by C_D » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:24 pm

Trump Induced Derangement Syndrome.

I'd be interested to hear what others have to say or add about this - symptoms, cause, effect etc.

Many witnessed this TIDS phenomenon firsthand over at RI -
the swing from mistrusting the mainstream pundits to hanging on and believing every word they say as long as it's Trump negative
the softening of attitude towards Hilary Clinton's crimes and misdemeanors because she isn't Trump
the swing to blaming Russia for every woe - and quite a few imagined
the sweeping, wholesale slurring of anyone not swallowing the New Democratic Model Narrative as a Nazi
the cementing of the moral high ground superiority mindset
the genuine hatred of any fellow citizen that has alternative views
the race-war stoking
to name but a few

I think that the words 'democrat' and 'liberal' in no way represent this new class of people. They need a new descriptor.

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Post by C_D » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:46 pm

The Chinese use 'White Left' as an insult LOL


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Post by dusty » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:28 pm

The Chinese also have a word similar to SJW, although their conception of SJW is uniquely female: 圣母婊 (literally "Saint Bitch") though I guess it might be applicable to some men, who knows! The term refers to hypocritical young women who express sympathy for the downtrodden and oppressed, painting themselves as moral paragons, while behaving in a cruel, vindictive and ultimately oppressive manner. A quote from the Chinese wiki equivalent:
Saint Bitch-ism has become a kind of ideology in conflict with the reality of human society, that talks about love and kindness, blindly protecting and indulging certain so-called "vulnerable groups" that are antisocial and criminal and even cruel and without humanity. An attitude that will surely result in societal chaos.
:lol:

As for TIDS, it's been fascinating watching formerly stable people use the internet as a fainting couch day in day out for the past year, being thrown into a sputtering rage every time President Trump opens his mouth. I recall Bush being labelled a Nazi too, and from the other side Obama too was proclaimed the new Hitler (in the future it seems everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes) but eventually the majority of people calmed down and the hyperbolic pants-shitting was mostly put aside as people got on with their lives. The problem is that people don't seem to have lives anymore. There's no escape from the news cycle, the Facebook community virtue signalling, the Twitter struggle sessions etc. My current theory is that this hysteria (yikes, another gendered term! send me off to the Garden of Dicks fl0w3r ) is rooted in internet-based narcissism, where people have deluded themselves into believing that they're crusaders playing a crucial role in an existential battle for the future of civilization (see the 4channers who believed they "memed" Trump into office). In the past a middle aged lady or gent may have outraged by certain political events, but as is natural for healthy people, that anger would subside. Derangement is less likely when people are able to escape the constant media-driven screeching about partisan politics, but when people become addicted this feeling of importance, the pressure to remain on top of every single development, they end up on social media representing #TheResistance fanatically retweeting Buzzfeed thinkpieces and ranting about the necessity of shooting nazis, punching TERFs and smashing trumpkins.

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Post by jakell » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:57 am

dusty wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:28 pm
The Chinese also have a word similar to SJW, although their conception of SJW is uniquely female: 圣母婊 (literally "Saint Bitch") though I guess it might be applicable to some men, who knows! The term refers to hypocritical young women who express sympathy for the downtrodden and oppressed, painting themselves as moral paragons, while behaving in a cruel, vindictive and ultimately oppressive manner. A quote from the Chinese wiki equivalent:
Saint Bitch-ism has become a kind of ideology in conflict with the reality of human society, that talks about love and kindness, blindly protecting and indulging certain so-called "vulnerable groups" that are antisocial and criminal and even cruel and without humanity. An attitude that will surely result in societal chaos.
:lol:

As for TIDS, it's been fascinating watching formerly stable people use the internet as a fainting couch day in day out for the past year, being thrown into a sputtering rage every time President Trump opens his mouth. I recall Bush being labelled a Nazi too, and from the other side Obama too was proclaimed the new Hitler (in the future it seems everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes) but eventually the majority of people calmed down and the hyperbolic pants-shitting was mostly put aside as people got on with their lives. The problem is that people don't seem to have lives anymore. There's no escape from the news cycle, the Facebook community virtue signalling, the Twitter struggle sessions etc. My current theory is that this hysteria (yikes, another gendered term! send me off to the Garden of Dicks fl0w3r ) is rooted in internet-based narcissism, where people have deluded themselves into believing that they're crusaders playing a crucial role in an existential battle for the future of civilization (see the 4channers who believed they "memed" Trump into office). In the past a middle aged lady or gent may have outraged by certain political events, but as is natural for healthy people, that anger would subside. Derangement is less likely when people are able to escape the constant media-driven screeching about partisan politics, but when people become addicted this feeling of importance, the pressure to remain on top of every single development, they end up on social media representing #TheResistance fanatically retweeting Buzzfeed thinkpieces and ranting about the necessity of shooting nazis, punching TERFs and smashing trumpkins.
I'm not sure if the internet has created this, but it could be blamed for fueling it. Believing that one is engaged in such a battle is common in certain ideologies** and a product of the human mind's ability to create abstractions and then extrapolate them towards either a Utopia or Armageddon, creating abstractions is ok but the latter comes from the ego part of cognition... 'I think therefore I am God'.
There's also an intuitive aspect to this appeal that gets underneath the cognitive one and described by Peterson: " Ideologies derive their archetypal power because they are fragmented mythologies" (I paraphrase)

I would also suggest that, at this stage in our civilisation, there is a strong feeling that we are living in End Times. For many, me included, this was supported by the peak oil movement and when this got more nuanced it started to become difficult to counter eg, John Michael Greer's catabolic collapse is still about collapse. A recent outing of this is reflected in environmental scares, typified by the Derrick Jenson thread on here.
End Times themes have archetypal power for the masses and can also fuel the fevered imaginations of certain idealogues, possibly believing either that their time has come and its not too late, or that they will be able to construct their Utopias from the pieces left behind after the hurly burly's done.


**Religion used to provide a container for this human tendency by projecting the battle into a transcendent realm and occasionally failing when it fell back into this one. Interesting that this tendency is just as dangerous (if not more) now that religion has been sidelined in favour of 'rationality'

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Re: T.I.D.S

Post by jakell » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:21 am

C_D wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:24 pm
Trump Induced Derangement Syndrome.

I'd be interested to hear what others have to say or add about this - symptoms, cause, effect etc.
Many witnessed this TIDS phenomenon firsthand over at RI -
the swing from mistrusting the mainstream pundits to hanging on and believing every word they say as long as it's Trump negative
the softening of attitude towards Hilary Clinton's crimes and misdemeanors because she isn't Trump
the swing to blaming Russia for every woe - and quite a few imagined
the sweeping, wholesale slurring of anyone not swallowing the New Democratic Model Narrative as a Nazi
the cementing of the moral high ground superiority mindset
the genuine hatred of any fellow citizen that has alternative views
the race-war stoking
to name but a few

I think that the words 'democrat' and 'liberal' in no way represent this new class of people. They need a new descriptor.
From what I can see this has abated somewhat, if only because at its peak it was off-the-scale. I put this down to the environment though.. if untold levels of copypasta are tolerated then things are going to get out of hand.
There seems to be little reflection though even though this was not a 'blip', but an almost year-long phenomenon, possibly there is also a lack of reflection in the general public too but I haven't been watching that closely.. to me TIDS seems more to be a sign of the times than anything to do with the actors themselves. Styxhexenhammer666 has described this, along with Nazis/Reds under the bed, as another 'moral panic' with the underlying question being "why do we feel the need to create and take part in moral panics?".
I would tentatively answer that they are a ritual theatre that enables us to engage with archetypal themes in an age where such things are considered unimportant due to 'progress'.

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Post by C_D » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:03 am

TIDS seems more to be a sign of the times than anything to do with the actors themselves
Indeed. An effect of cause.
I would tentatively answer that they are a ritual theatre that enables us to engage with archetypal themes in an age where such things are considered unimportant due to 'progress'.
Hmm. But they are important, regardless of the mask of progress. They have become most important to many.
Real-life is so grindingly slow compared to Internet-life.

Hope you all had a good holiday season. I hesitate to call it Xmas lest I offend someone. smiggle* Oops, I did it.

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Post by jakell » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:58 am

C_D wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:03 am
Hmm. But they are important, regardless of the mask of progress. They have become most important to many.
Real-life is so grindingly slow compared to Internet-life.
When viewed as a moral panic, they can be seen as both important and trivial. Important because, at the time, a lot of level headed commentators get drowned in the flood, opportunities are lost and some of them probably don't recover, it's also eats up our time, which is a valuable thing... "trivial" because they are a recurring thing with a limited timespan that produces little of value.

What would concern me is a lack of reflection on a period of insanity, so there is no closure. With this comes the possibility of a repetition of roughly the same thing (Styx's 'moral panic model), but this isn't a major problem, it's just standard (dumb) human behaviour. When it becomes problematic is when, due to a lack of reflection and closure, the situation becomes the basis for something darker.. this is the sort of thing I was getting at when talking about how realtively harmelss SJWism morphed into the proto 'Lord of the Flies' situation at Evergreen in summer 2017, and now we see that no lessons are being learned, that some in the new school year are doubling down on what happened.

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Post by dusty » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:37 pm

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Post by C_D » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:03 am

^
The best thing about that rant above is that's it's all true. :lol:

But to be honest, as scary as Trump is, he isn't going anywhere but to The Oval Office for the next 3 years, at least.

Because he is the choice of frontman for the Shadow Government of the USA - and his selection as thus should give you a broad idea of where American society is headed to, in those 3 years.

It is little wonder many are losing their minds.

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Post by BigEyeTenor » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:51 am

C’mon, TIDS was created by the media and the PTB, 100%.

First by assuring us, over and over, right up to election night, that he was gonna lose.

Second, by emphasizing, every step of the way, what a god awful racist sexist fascist neonatologist pussy-grabbing Satan’s Cock he was.

Third by acting like it was literally the end of civilization as we know it because he actually won.

People were less obsessively upset about 9/11 than they were the day after the election, and the media just kept the hysteria going. And going. There was no break whatsoever until he sent missiles into Syria. Then the PTB thought he just might play ball.

Now, of course, with thousands of troops in Syria, unable to face defeat, and with the proxy armies of head choppers and crucifiers redeployed and well paid for their next assault on all that is good and decent in the world, and with Tillerson talking about how great it is that North Koreans are dying slow horrible deaths due to the sanctions, and with Nikki “Hillbilly” Haley seemingly taking a leadership role in the Race to the Bottom, It’s clear that Trump et al are completely in the bag for Israel and the neocons. This the noise level about him boinking the porn Star is relatively low.

But the faux liberals, the pussyhatted warmonger assholes who are about to clutter our cities with their particular brand of psychosis and unbearable hypocrisy are STILL stuck in full-on TDIS.

In short, fuck em all.

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