Still think trans women are women?

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Re: Still think trans women are women?

Post by C_D » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:12 am

Yeah, ok - I'll stand down, here - that devil queen is a bit much. Are they all a bit like that?

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Re: Still think trans women are women?

Post by onefiftythree » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:45 pm

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/03/chape ... is-insane/
Chapelle wrote:The comedian jokingly concluded that the only reason anyone cared about transgender women’s feelings was that most transgender people in the United States, to his understanding, were white men. “The only reason all of us are talking about transgenders is because white men want to do it,” he joked.
"joked" "jokingly" uh huh

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Re: Still think trans women are women?

Post by Pauli137 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:11 am

C_D wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:12 am
Yeah, ok - I'll stand down, here - that devil queen is a bit much. Are they all a bit like that?
I don't think you're wrong to interject some compassion here. There are transgender folks who just want to "pass" and be left alone to live their lives. Mostly, I think these are MTFs who self-identify as straight females. Personally I think most of them -- unless they really can truly pass -- would be happier living their lives as effeminate gay men (probably a more authentic stance): no extreme body modification required, and they are more likely to find a partner who accepts them as-is. But that's just my 2c.

I'm fine with adults living their lives any way they choose, even if I personally think they may be making a grave mistake. My objection to the trans phenomenon is the insistence (among some) on wholesale changes to language, cognition (i.e. gender schema) and (as a result) fundamental aspects of society. Also, the promotion of life-altering medical procedures to children too young even to meaningfully consent to sex.

And, yes, the lesbian-MTF phenomenon does feel like another one of those white-male-privilege thingies.

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Re: Still think trans women are women?

Post by C_D » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:20 am

Looked into this a bit more, recently. It seems to me there are two main types of transgender male to females - men that desperately wish to be a woman and men that are a woman inside.

The men that wish to believe they are women inside - have all the surgery, wear all the attractive clothes (associated, incidently, with subjection to male attraction preferences) - are the ones that most loudly proclaim victimhood and rejection, demanding that everyone accept them and find them attractive. These men, when put in a totally female environment, are fairly quickly shunned by all the actual females because they are nothing like a female!

The men that are born with a woman inside are immediately accepted by an all-female group, because, contrary to what modern pyschology and societal programming tells us, one woman can sense another woman, regardless of their outer appearance. They just get on with being a woman and are delighted to be accepted as such.

Men and women are different mental-states. And lots of varied states in-between. And thank fuck for that.

Really ladies - it's up to you to sort this out. Reject those that are fake, embrace those that are real. You have the power, here.

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Re: Still think trans women are women?

Post by C_D » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:40 am

Going a bit further, I would suggest that for a male to undergo complete body transformation to female, he should be assessed by an all female panel (which can made up of biologically-born females and transgender females that have been recognised by other females as female inside) - who consequently have the complete and final say in the matter.

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